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THE PREDATOR
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Looks Totally Meh Then

Fox has (finally) unveiled a first look at The Predator, and the results aren’t promising. The big-screen return of the extra-terrestrial hunter after eight years, Shane Black’s soft-reboot has been one of 2018’s most anticipated films, but it looks like all the hype may be for naught.
Even before seeing a lick of footage, The Predator‘s had a tricky journey to the screen. It’s been in development since 2014, with its release date shunted around Fox’s 2018 slate four times, and recently underwent major reshoots that – per Black himself – redid much of the third act. However, even after mixed responses from the footage at CinemaCon, hopes were high that the writer-director would be able to reenergize the franchise, possibly reimagining to a level comparable to what Ridley Scott’s done recently with Alien.

If he has, it’s not in the trailer, which finally dropped after months of speculation without much ceremony today (to coincide with the release of Fox’ Deadpool 2 next week). To call it disappointing is an understatement. It’s a deflating experience to watch; a generic, poorly-lit grab-bag of disconnected shots and rushed through shots that wastes its money shot in the middle and whose choice “badass” moments flop. The teaser is weaker than the insipid marketing campaign for Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom. Heck, it’s less promising than Venom‘s Venom-less first look – at least that had a tonal throughline.

In many ways, The Predator‘s trailer problem is representative of bigger issues with how smaller tentpoles are handled by the studios. Whereas you can start promoting a film the scale of Avengers: Infinity War almost a year in advance (the first footage played at D23 and a poster was released at SDCC, both in July 2017), it’s harder to maintain for other pictures that don’t have such momentum.

Indeed, Fox is employing a similar tactic with The Predator to what Lucasfilm did with Solo: A Star Wars Story, holding any real marketing back until the last moment (Solo‘s teaser released after the Super Bowl, under four months before release, while Predator is five months out now). However, neither studio made consolations for those timing shifts: the first trailers were stripped back, as if there was a longer marketing push to come. This may be why hype for Solo is yet to really kick off – that first look got a muted response, with the verve of the movie only emerging in recent TV spots – and The Predator suffers similarly from a restrained approach.

There’s also parallels to Fox’s handling of Fantastic Four and Sony’s with The Dark Tower: a heavily-delayed first look that comes almost as an obligation. Both films were, famously, butchered by reshoots and reedits – something we know has happened (albeit without context) on The Predator – and so were sold with the studio knowing they had a dud on their hands. We can’t draw qualitative conclusions from a trailer, but in whatever way The Predator is misreading the room and inviting unfavorable comparisons.

So, yes, bad trailer doesn’t mean bad movie. But laying down all the editing and contextual concerns, The Predator just doesn’t seem to incite much excitement regardless.

Its big play is the method by which the Predator is brought to Earth: Jacob Tremblay’s character gets a Predator helmet sent in the mail and while playing with it finds a control module that crashes a ship. That’s a weird-near-dumb turn as presented. Immediately, we’re left asking a lot of basic questions – who sent it? why? how does the physics of that work? – that, while they’ll no doubt be answered by the film, here leave a lot wanting. It’s tonally jarring with the rest of the trailer and comes across as ill-advised.

Weirder is the handling of fitting innovation. The movie’s “sell” would appear to be that the Yautja are now turning themselves into galactic species hybrids, going from planet-to-planet to perfect their hunting methods. It’s fitting of the idea of the apex hunter and slots effortlessly into the canon as it’s been expanded since (especially 2010’s Predators), but – just like Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom‘s “T-Rex roaring in front of the volcano” money shot – is utterly wasted in the trailer, skipped over in favor of more attacks in the dark.

The movie Fox is selling is both a stripped-back extension of what we’ve seen before – Predator but in the suburbs – and franchise evolution, but the result lacks the character or genius required to get interest.

None of this is to say The Predator being bad is a sure-fire certainty. If Iron Man 3 taught us anything, it’s to never trust a Shane Black trailer, after all. However, the film’s beginning to have more stacked against it than a group of marines in the jungle. When September comes around, don’t be surprised if the underrated Predators is getting a serious reappraisal.

KEY RELEASE DATESThe Predator release date: Sep 14, 2018


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It's about time they gave a trailer. I don't care what anyone says this movie will be great. I am a huge fan of the predator movies.
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Jason xXx, post: 7552, member: 3 Wrote:It's about time they gave a trailer. I don't care what anyone says this movie will be great. I am a huge fan of the predator movies.
I am too but i'm IFFY on this.
I'm not impressed by the 1st trailer.
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VSW, post: 7589, member: 24 Wrote:I am too but i'm IFFY on this.
I'm not impressed by the 1st trailer.
To me when ever a movie releases a first trailer I don't think to much of it because it's a teaser to build up hype for the next trailer. That's the way I see it.
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Jason xXx, post: 7601, member: 3 Wrote:To me when ever a movie releases a first trailer I don't think to much of it because it's a teaser to build up hype for the next trailer. That's the way I see it.
For me it's not doing a good job at building any excitement within me.
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VSW, post: 7650, member: 24 Wrote:For me it's not doing a good job at building any excitement within me.
Most trailers do that for me. Only time will tell if it's will be a hit or a miss.
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Jason xXx, post: 7653, member: 3 Wrote:Most trailers do that for me. Only time will tell if it's will be a hit or a miss.
True, i'm holding out for more trailers but the teaser is still disappointing.
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VSW, post: 7692, member: 24 Wrote:True, i'm holding out for more trailers but the teaser is still disappointing.
It's still something in my books after being delayed the have to reshoot scenes. I just glad they didn't just cancel it.
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Jason xXx, post: 7696, member: 3 Wrote:It's still something in my books after being delayed the have to reshoot scenes. I just glad they didn't just cancel it.
Well from the look of the script i kinda wished they had.

having genetically upgraded themselves with DNA from other species.
Ick!
The premise just doesn't sit with me that well. Not for the Predator species.
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VSW, post: 7700, member: 24 Wrote:Well from the look of the script i kinda wished they had.

having genetically upgraded themselves with DNA from other species.
Ick!
The premise just doesn't sit with me that well. Not for the Predator species.
I remember them learning and adapting but when have they been able to genetically modify themselves. Unless this is a whole new breed of predators.
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Jason xXx, post: 7701, member: 3 Wrote:I remember them learning and adapting but when have they been able to genetically modify themselves. Unless this is a whole new breed of predators.
I never seen them do that.
The Predator lore i guess is open to the possibility but for characters types like this i'm not excited about the idea.
It doesn't fit the established lore of the species priding itself as warriors who learns to adapt & become better hunters.

Genetically upgrading themselves is more of the Alien Xenomorph XX121 thing by design, not the Predators.
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VSW, post: 7753, member: 24 Wrote:Genetically upgrading themselves is more of the Alien Xenomorph XX121 thing by design, not the Predators.
From what I remember since the aliens can grow within a few hours and that would make since for some modifications but they don't have the technology to do so.

As for the whole alien predator hybrid it grew that fast because it was half alien.

I guess the predators technology is so advanced it can modify predators after the have grown.
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Jason xXx, post: 7805, member: 3 Wrote:From what I remember since the aliens can grow within a few hours and that would make since for some modifications but they don't have the technology to do so.

As for the whole alien predator hybrid it grew that fast because it was half alien.

I guess the predators technology is so advanced it can modify predators after the have grown.
Yeah but it doesn't make sense having the Predators go that rout too.


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What's a forced download ????
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VSW, post: 8176, member: 24 Wrote:Yeah but it doesn't make sense having the Predators go that rout too.
I guess it was the next logical step for the species.

VSW, post: 8176, member: 24 Wrote:What's a forced download ????
I believe it's a download that doesn't require you to click a download button. That's my guess.

Every once in a while I will get a random apk downloaded on my phone without my knowledge of clicking a link.
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Jason xXx, post: 8195, member: 3 Wrote:I guess it was the next logical step for the species.

Noooo.
The next logical step was:
Deadliest of the Species
Eternal
Xenogenesis
Civilized Beasts
Thrill of the Hunt
Three World War
Fire and Stone
Life and Death

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Machiko Noguchi which is changed in the AVP movie to Alexa "Lex" Woods

Machiko Noguchi[1] (野口真千子), known as Da'dtou-di ("small knife") by the Yautja, was a Chigusa Corporation employee and the administrator in charge of the Prosperity Wells colony on Ryushi. She was the daughter of Akira and Keiko Noguchi. Machiko had only recently taken up her position on Ryushi when it was subjected to a devastating assault by a group of Yautja and the Xenomorphs they had unleashed on the planet. The incident led to the destruction of the colony and the death of several of its inhabitants.

Machiko survived the incident, in the process earning the respect of the Yautja known as "Broken Tusk", to the point where she was Blooded by him and went on to join his clan.


After the 1st Alien vs Predator movie there were stories with Machiko Noguchi (In the 1st image) & how she hunted with the a Predator clan, but you know hollywood.


Jason xXx, post: 8195, member: 3 Wrote:I believe it's a download that doesn't require you to click a download button. That's my guess.

Every once in a while I will get a random apk downloaded on my phone without my knowledge of clicking a link.

Oh i thought it was a smaller download file option.
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Unfortunately the movies steers clear of the comics to a extent. So this is where the series or movies is at now it's a shame yes but it's what the directors feel is right I guess.

Me personally would have like to seen a follow up to the cliffhanger that is predators. Since at the end of the movie new survivors are dropped in.

VSW, post: 8231, member: 24 Wrote:After the 1st Alien vs Predator movie there were stories with Machiko Noguchi (In the 1st image) & how she hunted with the a Predator clan, but you know hollywood.
That would have be sick if they made that.

VSW, post: 8231, member: 24 Wrote:Oh i thought it was a smaller download file optio
That was my guess when I googled it didn't show much but what it was pointing towards is tormenting forced downloads.

Every once in a while on your site my phone would randomly download a image pic without any notification.
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Jason xXx, post: 8256, member: 3 Wrote:Unfortunately the movies steers clear of the comics to a extent. So this is where the series or movies is at now it's a shame yes but it's what the directors feel is right I guess.

That's why the risk is always huge.
Directors & Hollywood does what they feel is right instead of using the already established formula & building from that.

There's already an established following but Directors & Hollywood would rather attract those unfamiliar with the material.

Taking chances on two huge risks.

Jason xXx, post: 8256, member: 3 Wrote:Me personally would have like to seen a follow up to the cliffhanger that is predators. Since at the end of the movie new survivors are dropped in.

Me too.
They did actually in the comic.

Jason xXx, post: 8256, member: 3 Wrote:That would have be sick if they made that.

Yeah it would.
Machiko Noguchi had the Predator gear & everything.

Jason xXx, post: 8256, member: 3 Wrote:That was my guess when I googled it didn't show much but what it was pointing towards is tormenting forced downloads.

Every once in a while on your site my phone would randomly download a image pic without any notification.

Yeah it's the browser type & depending on the ad i guess. Happens when i use the 360, not just my site but others.
What images ?
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#18
Second trailer shows more of the predator plus the genetically modified or mega predator.

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#19
Another trailer shows more of the Mega predator.

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